Review of my Chat Room Stock Trading, Algorithm Stock Charting Calls and Alerts for Wednesday Feb 8, 2017; $DWT, $DFFN, $PLG, $NUGT, $AAPL, $FB, $GOOGL, $BABA, $NFLX, $OAK – $ASM, $SSH, $VRX, $JUNO, $CBMX, $TRCH, $LGCY, $DUST etc …
Intro:
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Notices:
Public Webinar Schedule:
Webinars are scheduled for this Saturday afternoon. For general public interested in understanding our services and algorithmic chart modeling. Also for existing members that wish to ask more detailed questions about the charting and trading our algorithmic charts.
Date: Saturday Feb 11, 2107
Location: Visit our website www.compoundtrading.com and click link to enter trading room and sign in as guest.
2:00 Epic the Oil Algorithm
2:30 Rosie the Gold Algorithm
3:00 SuperNova Silver Algorithm
3:30 US Dollar $DXY Algorithm
4:00 S&P and VIX (in development) models.
4:30 Swing Trading – What our service includes and success to date.
5:00 Trading Room – Introduction to our Trading Room
New article on our blog: Keep it simple charting (amazing how you make consistent and predictable returns on your money just trading the simplicity of some charts – we make it way to complicated sometimes)
New article on our blog:
My Newest Article: "The Only Stock Market Indicator That Matters Anymore | Chapter 1" https://t.co/npUTTjdyGk #stocks #trading #investing
— Curtis Melonopoly (@curtmelonopoly) February 5, 2017
Per previous;
Trading Room News Memo – There is a new member memo out that updates our members on trading room news and upcoming events. It also discusses our upcoming announcement of weekly webinars for existing members that wish to use our work in a more in depth manner and prospective members that would like to understand more about what we do. These webinars will be weekly for all six algorithmic charting models, our swing trading service and our trade room – each being 30 minutes in length. You will find the memo here:
Compound Trading Stock Trading Room Member Memo Feb 3, 2017
Also, for those that have been asking about our systems… starting weekly webinar schedule to explain how our algorithmic modeling works.
— Curtis Melonopoly (@curtmelonopoly) February 3, 2017
Overview Perspective & Review of Markets, Chat Room, Algo Calls, Trades and Alerts:
Some of the plays in the room and swing trades lately include stock trades, options, ETF’s etc such as $DWT, $DFFN, $PLG, $NUGT, $AAPL, $FB, $GOOGL, $BABA, $NFLX, $OAK.
In general terms, the crew in the room has absolutely been winning since early January. Mathew has been all over his swings, options and daytrades. Our members in the room have been on the same winning train. You would have to review all transcripts because it has been varied but bottom line is they have been on right side of the market from Gold to the recent tech action and in options etc. Very, very solid group. A great learning experience for traders in the room also.
The swing trading side of our service has nailed I think every call and the members have been sharing with me their success stories – as I predicted before Christmas this has without been the most profitable part of the trading I have been involved with also since Christmas. My personal daytrading in the room has been mixed, I am up just shy of 20% for the year so far BUT as I have said has I listened to our Gold and Silver algorithm charting I would be way, way, way higher. But the swing trading service side has made up for that also.
Specifically today for myself I was trying to get on right side of oil related trading, and I don’t want to come across wrong but truth is this category (and our other algorithmic charting models such as Gold, Silver, VIX, SPY, USD) are my mainstays – because we do have somewhat of an edge… data. Anyway, my point is oil since it entered its sideways action weeks back has been predictable but I haven’t traded it much because sideways doesn’t provide optimum margin (decent but not optimum). So I have been daytrading momentum stocks and swing trading and waiting for the set-ups in our standard algorithm models to be most advantageous (and again, the error was missing the Gold and Silver turn). Anyway, to the point ha, oil, oil, oil…. it lost a technical support and when that happens 99% of the time there is a trend change (if you check EPIC the Oil Algos record on trend changes you will see its near 100% call win rate). So the set-up was perfect, but something odd happened the last two days – the machines shut off (which should occur at the inflection) but then nothing happend – which is not how oil trades. Oil trades in a very very predictable way – decision to decision and at each you make bank. And even more so when the trend is at a break and changes. So bottom line is oil trade in a way it does in less than 1% of instances when an important technical is broken. So I took two inverse oil plays $DWT and the first I took a paper cut and second flat. And I see that the chart in overnight trade is repaired and oil is back in its sideways range. Ugh.
Per previous;
I’m still on the wrong side of that Gold / Miners / Silver trade and I have absolutely no excuse because I knew months in advance the bottom call from Rosie the Gold Algo and SuperNova Silver Algo – and I even doubled down on $DUST the other day. HOWEVER, Gold does have two very significant hurdles coming overhead that have low probabilities (as far as math is concerned) of price action clearing (with-out a pull back) – unless of course geopolitical reasons / sentiment change that.
Momentum / Noteable Stocks Today (via FinViz):
| Ticker | Last | Change | Volume |  |
Signal |
| VPCO | 0.00 | 42.86% | 135610899 | Top Gainers | |
| AEHR | 3.00 | 35.75% | 9255700 | Top Gainers | |
| ATV | 11.71 | 30.11% | 26500 | Top Gainers | |
| ATOS | 1.81 | 26.44% | 560419 | Top Gainers | |
| INVE | 4.60 | 20.10% | 538833 | Top Gainers | |
| PLG | 2.32 | 18.97% | 3330278 | Top Gainers | |
| COHR | 190.65 | 18.17% | 1406700 | New High | |
| INVE | 4.60 | 20.10% | 538833 | New High | |
| TSRO | 182.68 | 12.11% | 2834600 | New High | |
| WD | 37.27 | 16.11% | 967500 | New High | |
| WOOF | 90.72 | 0.01% | 1511300 | Overbought | |
| AAPL | 132.04 | 0.39% | 23336500 | Overbought | |
| AEHR | 3.00 | 35.75% | 9255700 | Unusual Volume | |
| EZR | 23.79 | -0.21% | 50000 | Unusual Volume | |
| BSWN | 23.20 | 0.22% | 31200 | Unusual Volume | |
| OCRX | 0.73 | 32.55% | 29245973 | Unusual Volume | |
| ABB | 22.61 | -3.58% | 3654600 | Upgrades | |
| ABB | 22.61 | -3.58% | 3654600 | Earnings Before | |
| EEI | 9.60 | -3.03% | 9000 | Insider Buying |
Holding:
I am holding $ASM, $VRX, $SSH, $JUNO, $CBMX, $TRCH, $LGCY, $DUST
Looking Forward:
I am of course watching our standards that apply to our algorithmic charting;
US Dollar $DXY is at important support so I will watch for a bounce (my personal bias).
$GOLD, Miners and $SILVER blew through resistance but have a series of very significant algorithmic chart modeling and classic charting decisions on deck soon so I will watch for a pull-back (my personal bias but I do know there is a significant possibility my bias is wrong and if so I will really hammer down on the move through resistance long if it occurs – AND I’ll be ready for the small and micro caps that would likely light fight in that scenario).
$OIL was broke and it magically repaired and is back in its multi-week range – trade the range until really broke.
$VIX is still near dead – records being set (as predicted long before Christmas).
$SPY continues in its range but I will be looking for a break to higher (my personal bias).
Still playing morning momos but the last 15 sessions follow-through momo (where I bank) has been difficult because volume goes poof.
Swing trading – continuing to bank on that side of our platform and don’t expect that to slow down in 2017 (until a change in market conditions of course).
Weekend webinars we are hosting to review all of our algorithmic modeling, swing trading and what we do in our trading room will be as good for me as it will be for attendees because it will be a refresh of all the charting and a good way to get ready for next weeks trading.
PS – I know we haven’t posted five or six trading results since Christmas and we’re getting there soon. We have it on our list along with… well you know… lots:)
Earnings on deck:
Big Week. #Earnings $NVDA $TWTR $GILD $DIS $TWLO $GM $ATVI $CLF $BP $CVS $ONVO $TSN $NWL $SKX $HAS $KO $WLTW $AGN $SYY $AXTA https://t.co/J6WHPyXArd
— Curtis Melonopoly (@curtmelonopoly) February 4, 2017
The algorithm Twitter feeds can be found here: $WTI (@EPICtheAlgo), $VIX (@VexatiousVIX), $SPY (@FREEDOMtheAlgo), $GLD (@ROSIEtheAlgo), $SLV (@SuperNovaAlgo), $DXY (@DXYUSD_Index).
Announcements in Compound Trading Chat Room:
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Compound Trading Stock Chat-room Transcript:
09:18 am Lenny E : All out $DFFN
09:20 am Mathew Waterfall : Held ON? Nice trade Lenny
09:21 am Mathew Waterfall : Eyes on crude and the dollar here. Bonds made a YUGE move up ON and will see if they can hold or if they give it back as they’ve been prone to do
09:21 am Lenny E : No. But am overtrading too.
09:21 am Mathew Waterfall : nice
09:24 am Eric L : Sold half $DFFN holding half for open
09:24 am Eric L : Thanks for alert Len
09:32 am Mathew Waterfall : Out some $NGD here at 2.97x from 2.84. oversized position I wanted to cut down on this pop
09:32 am Lenny E : Watch $CAMT here
09:34 am Curtis M : Long $APOP 6.56 and out at 6.36 stopped imm
09:34 am Curtis M : 1000
09:36 am John M : L $CORH
09:37 am Mathew Waterfall : Out the weekly $GLD 119c’s at .29 from .27. Didn’t buy enough time. Still in a couple to see if this move goes higher as I expect
09:38 am Mathew Waterfall : Out $SSRI at 11.95 form yesterdays buy at 11.40 for a quickie
09:39 am Mathew Waterfall : Miners have some catch up to do here IMP after yesterdays sell off
09:42 am Jack D : Nothing I was watching went anywhere but down ugh
09:44 am Mathew Waterfall : Out $IAG at 5.095 from 4.50ish. Don’t have the exact entry price for some reason. Lightening up as I was HEAVY miners here this week and last
09:46 am Sandra Q : Long $NUGT may be late to party short leash as Mathew says
09:50 am Mathew Waterfall : Lots of $JNUG call flow hitting the wire this moring right off of the open
09:50 am Nicholas Winton : love miners here
09:50 am Mathew Waterfall : New one I picked up last night after close. $GFI. Chart looks great and should see north of $4 shortly
09:51 am Curtis M : 1242 – 1253 no mans land fr Gold imo …. up its gone if t gets over
09:51 am Nicholas Winton : i think we could see miners rip thru next wk
09:52 am Curtis M : kinda like oil yesterday big decisoin but oil crapped I dodnt think gold will
09:53 am Mathew Waterfall : Agreed. I actually like Silver a bit more long term here. Keeping most of the silver plays
09:55 am Mathew Waterfall : Out a bit of $PLG 2.12 from 1.76 entry. Had mid 2’s as final target so we’ll see if we get there
09:57 am Mathew Waterfall : $PPP continues to kill it. Still aiming for $1 in short order
09:59 am Nicholas Winton : ASM looks good
09:59 am Nicholas Winton : when THM breaks out- kaboom
10:01 am Curtis M : Volume dried up in most issues on my monitors – careful.
10:01 am Curtis M : Obvously y’all are bing that our room is dead quiet lol
10:02 am Eric L : Dead cat everywehere I look – something going to shake. Up or down not sure.
10:02 am Mathew Waterfall : Oil report should get the party started
10:03 am Lenny E : micro twitter guys trying to talk up a good game but nothing on the charts when you look
10:03 am Lenny E : bio low float guys
10:05 am Nicholas Winton : GENE
10:05 am Nicholas Winton : $GENE
10:05 am Eric L : $GENE looks decent
10:08 am Curtis M : Whats your PT on $HENE Ncholas?
10:11 am Nicholas Winton : i thinkn if we see volume enter we could see 1.30
10:18 am Lenny E : watching $DRYS for pop
10:18 am Sandra Q : Curtis serious about oil charts
10:19 am OILK K : I don’t think he misses when he fires on oil S 🙂
10:20 am Mathew Waterfall : $FB seeing a ton of call buying here into some strength after last weeks earnings dump
10:20 am OILK K : yes sir eee Mat
10:23 am Mathew Waterfall : Besides that and the miners/metals not much standing out. A couple $SPY bear bets early but no non stop action like I try ot key off of
10:28 am Cara R : shhhh lol
10:31 am Curtis M : machines used that lower fib algo line as target been on there for some time – they defaulted to it
10:32 am Mathew Waterfall : Confirmed the build and not much reaction. Color me surprised
10:33 am Curtis M : Short at the blue line it is blue arrow (uppr blue line lol)
10:33 am Curtis M : sorry just in case haha
10:34 am Curtis M : if it gets there
10:40 am Eric L : scared the carap outta me when he came on hahaha
10:40 am Eric L : ha
10:40 am Eric L : turned it down
10:43 am Carol B : Thanks Mathew helps
10:43 am OILQ K : i second that
10:43 am Mathew Waterfall : Glad it helps. Shoot me a note if yoou have any other questions I can help with
10:43 am OILQ K : oil
10:44 am OILQ K : yippy
10:44 am Mathew Waterfall : Biggest build in forever and it rallies. wow
10:44 am OILQ K : cccrazy
10:45 am Curtis M : loading the bombs he he
10:45 am Curtis M : it goes over that blue line i have to flp fast lol
10:47 am Curtis M : see oil is viscious
10:48 am Curtis M : 1 s lol
10:53 am Mathew Waterfall : Break back in a few
10:53 am Curtis M : k
10:54 am Curtis M : Long $DWT but careful
10:54 am Curtis M : it could squeeze easy
10:55 am Curtis M : like that
10:55 am Curtis M : getting dangerous
10:55 am Curtis M : needs to fail soon
10:57 am Curtis M : if it fails i wlil scale at levels of fibs
10:58 am Curtis M : For those that can’t get audio will short at fibs if it fails if it pops i will exit and wait
10:58 am Curtis M : siting right at decision
10:59 am Curtis M : 52.45 or more gets seriously bad
10:59 am Curtis M : fast
11:00 am Trent P : man Curt never seen anyone so tapped in to oil charting and trades ya know your levels
11:05 am Curtis M : out
11:05 am Curtis M : getting ready on long side
11:06 am Curtis M : dam
11:09 am David Z : crazy
11:11 am David Z : on another note my $TSLA yes
11:12 am John M : y abunch of us winners there
11:14 am John M : it didnt get far above res
11:14 am Curtis M : ya
11:19 am Lenny E : oil looks lie crap in my opinion curtis
11:19 am Curtis M : hard to read
11:20 am Lenny E : I might short soon myself and I dont trade it
11:20 am Lenny E : well DWT not short
11:20 am Lenny E : inverse! thats it
11:21 am Lenny E : I understand now why you use 20 day for commodities and not 9.
11:21 am Curtis M : machines arent buying
11:22 am Curtis M : not yet anyway
11:25 am Curtis M : Long $DWT tester
11:27 am Eric L : Im in the raid seen your tweets funny better win
11:27 am Eric L : Like you I hate losing
11:28 am Eric L : MMy $BABA paid
11:28 am Jake A : Covered both $TSLA and $BABA for payday too this morning
11:29 am OILQ K : why would anyone want to lon oil with that build and USA shale beyond me
11:36 am Mathew Waterfall : Trimming $PLG at 2.00 from 1.7X. Broker issues seeing these entry prices after exit for some reason
11:37 am Mathew Waterfall : Dude, janet
11:37 am Mathew Waterfall : They have been propping oil to prevent a high yield crash all year
11:37 am Mathew Waterfall : high yield crash brings a crash. Look at what started things off fall of 2015. $HYG crash
11:38 am Curtis M : ya fark piss me off
11:38 am Curtis M : holding tester DWT
11:39 am Mathew Waterfall : That’s my tin foil hat theory anyway which makes a lot of sense to me
11:39 am Curtis M : spooky action
11:40 am Eric L : Curt never on wrong side of oil
11:40 am Curtis M : Anyway on to other stuff
11:40 am Curtis M : lol thanks eric haha
11:41 am Don O : on a bighter note you all – a bunch of us banked this morning $TSLA $BABA and thres more on the way yippy
11:41 am Eric L : True true
11:42 am Mathew Waterfall : Nice well done Don and others. Love to see that
11:43 am Don O : going to be a good afternoon i feel it
11:43 am Don O : hope
11:51 am Shafique M : Been in $ROKA since you alerted a cople wks ago and t looks better now
11:52 am Mathew Waterfall : BTO $GFI Mar 4c’s at .12. I have a 4.20 PT on this near term which should juice these to the moon if we get it
11:53 am Shafique M : hit it
11:53 am Glenn T : good eye on that
11:54 am Mathew Waterfall : Those calls are really cheap to me premium wise. That’s what I’m looking for in the latter stages of this gold move
11:54 am Glenn T : checking now
11:55 am Glenn T : great room btw
11:55 am Curtis M : Yes sorry Glenn welcome:)
11:58 am Mathew Waterfall : $IWM looking like it wants some follow through to the downside and a channel break. Im looking for a sub 134 close with confirmation tomorrow to key off of there
12:02 pm OILQ K : $WINS resumed
12:03 pm Mathew Waterfall : $WINS is the kind casino pump and dump stock for me
12:03 pm OILQ K : he ya
12:06 pm darnel t : $FB $TSLA $BABA all great plays for my end – looking at $NFLX again
12:06 pm darnel t : $FB action hot
12:07 pm darnel t : and $AMD short
12:08 pm darnel t : and evven $GOOGL long
12:09 pm Mathew Waterfall : Ton of steam long in all of those names. $TSLA has earningson 2/22 I think
12:09 pm Mathew Waterfall : $AMD has seen a ton of long action so careful shrt
12:09 pm darnel t : Curt you were saying something about Tump and tech o nTurs though?
12:09 pm darnel t : yes thanks Mathew good thought
12:10 pm Mathew Waterfall : $AMD and $MU have both seen a lot of call buying the last couple of weeks. Just something to keep in mind
12:11 pm Curtis M : I thought I seen something about Trump and tech on Thur
12:11 pm Curtis M : CAN WE JUST DUMP PLS LOL
12:11 pm Mathew Waterfall : Seriously. It feels to me like they want to suck in longs and then flush but how long can that go on for? It needs to move sooner or later…right?
12:12 pm Curtis M : you would think lol
12:12 pm Curtis M : im sure were being played by the powers postive
12:13 pm Mathew Waterfall : O yea, we always are though lol
12:13 pm Curtis M : we run massive data…. the data doesn’t lie – its like aliens showed up – we know
12:13 pm Curtis M : i cant tell you exactly where a prce wll go normally lol but we can tell you when it is wrong
12:13 pm Curtis M : without error
12:14 pm Curtis M : humans trade and machines trade and with enough time and enough data you can tell when the aliens show up
12:15 pm Mathew Waterfall : Can you measure how large of an outlier we’re seeing here or is that impossible with the different layers of data?
12:15 pm Curtis M : hard to tell now because w ehave to go back to the data with what we have from yesterday and today and it takes days
12:15 pm Mathew Waterfall : Wondering how large it is to just keep us flat. Like is this a 3 sigma move just to pin things?
12:16 pm Curtis M : like loook AT THAT chart bot says sell price goes up immediaely at same time
12:16 pm Curtis M : never never never happens
12:17 pm Curtis M : i gotta focus on makingmoney this afternoon this pissed me off lol
12:17 pm Curtis M : 🙂
12:17 pm Curtis M : get happy
12:17 pm Mathew Waterfall : Goodlcuk to us all lol
12:17 pm Curtis M : lol
12:18 pm Curtis M : look at that stoch rsi oil should be TANKING
12:19 pm Curtis M : sorry guys it just feels like casino cheating today
12:19 pm Mathew Waterfall : Tough to get indicators that looks worse that than really
12:20 pm Mathew Waterfall : Just took some $GFI commons to add to the calls here. Sold off hard ongold stength will play catch up shortly
12:20 pm Eric L : no probs Curt! Lets just raid the tray this afternoon!
12:20 pm Curtis M : lol a gambler:)
12:20 pm Curtis M : ok focus on
12:22 pm Jake A : 1257 gold and I’m out of y long of we get it
12:23 pm Curtis M : fib there
12:37 pm Nicholas Winton : $ASM looking great
12:38 pm Curtis M : lol have to rebot soon b4 afternoon
12:39 pm Tech 3 : I’ll grab it curt
12:45 pm Tech 3 : good to go
12:45 pm Tech 3 : sorry, its there platform not u c u
12:51 pm Mathew Waterfall : Really wanted $TLT on a pullback today but it’s going going gone by the looks. Still sitting in Mar 126c’s and a pile elsewhere but wanted another reload in calls
12:52 pm Curtis M : looks gone
12:52 pm Curtis M : great play
12:53 pm Mathew Waterfall : Wanted more but o well thus is life lol still will buy on pullbacks
12:58 pm Shafique M : $PLG rockstar
12:59 pm Mathew Waterfall : Yea $PLG has been a killer for me. Would look for more if it sees any weakness
12:59 pm Shafique M : I eye balled it but missed
01:02 pm Curtis M : indicators relative to price in crude literally backwards
01:03 pm Jake A : selling $OCRX daytrade for decent gain on daytrade mini size
01:05 pm Curtis M : carefule with oil longs here now
01:05 pm Mathew Waterfall : huge dollar spike
01:06 pm Curtis M : could b decison time soon
01:08 pm Curtis M : buy miners in morning sell at 1? daily? is that a thing?
01:08 pm Mathew Waterfall : Thise week yea. Last week was opposite
01:09 pm Curtis M : odd
01:09 pm Mathew Waterfall : I’ve been buying calls late day and sleling right off of the open with decent success. Front week jnug/nugt very risky
01:10 pm Curtis M : decision in oil b4 1:25 ish likely
01:19 pm Nicholas Winton : could be major copper strike
01:20 pm Nicholas Winton : at $BHP
01:20 pm Nicholas Winton : look at copper oriented stocks
01:20 pm Nicholas Winton : $TGB and $NAK (which has huge gold too)
01:20 pm Mathew Waterfall : I saw that yesterday but not a ton of movement. I’m in and like $TRQ here but it’s been lagging tough
01:21 pm Jake A : in copper on Curts note this morning start only…
01:21 pm Curtis M : ah ya Nicholas I’ll get ya that morning news
01:21 pm Curtis M : 125 on deck
01:22 pm Curtis M : i like the copper play
01:23 pm Curtis M : caeful oil longs
01:24 pm Mathew Waterfall : Looking at high r/r $JNUG front week calls here. most likely 12.5’s
01:25 pm Nicholas Winton : copper rose 9% in 3 days during November- when that happens copper is extremely bullish 3, 6 and 12 months out
01:26 pm Curtis M : 1:25
01:27 pm Curtis M : machines didnt buy it
01:28 pm Curtis M : Ncholas – anhthing wierd going on in the constellations?
01:28 pm Curtis M : lol
01:29 pm Curtis M : i think he left
01:30 pm Don O : $GOOGL looks like my big play of the wek coming
01:30 pm Don O : It looks set up really well
01:30 pm Don O : sentiment mainly
01:34 pm Mathew Waterfall : Took a few weekly $JNUG calls here. Basically lotto’s at this point looking for anther gap up ON or afternoon spike ala Monday. 12.5’s at .35
01:35 pm Mathew Waterfall : usd/jpy and cahnnel high and cold just ran the late stops my thinking here
01:39 pm Curtis M : Copper has resistance ocming btw so if sentiment shifts its down so thats the hard part
01:40 pm Kevin E : $BIDU beast
01:54 pm Lenny E : $BIDU to the moon soon I think
01:56 pm Curtis M : theres something about thur and tech stocks i wish i could remember
01:57 pm Dave A : Curtis, you still holding $DWT?
01:57 pm Curtis M : Barely yes
01:57 pm Dave A : thx
01:58 pm Curtis M : Welcome back Sartaj
01:59 pm Sartaj Hundal : Hello, all. Nice to be back, besides the snow!
01:59 pm Curtis M : ha Im good for today just text me local and i can be there at 3
02:00 pm Sartaj Hundal : Nice to see positive reviews from our members in these flat markets
02:01 pm Curtis M : market stinks
02:01 pm Curtis M : lol
02:02 pm OILK K : $RXII loooks lie a death trap for bulls
02:04 pm Curtis M : 2:30 on deck – oil
02:13 pm Curtis M : yes
02:14 pm Curtis M : no magic saves now
02:16 pm John M : ha
02:16 pm Mathew Waterfall : Flsuh this thing come on
02:16 pm Mathew Waterfall : *flush
02:16 pm Mathew Waterfall : let’s get moving
02:16 pm John M : F L U S H
02:16 pm John M : 13 mins
02:16 pm Curtis M : yup
02:17 pm Mathew Waterfall : flush o’clock
02:18 pm Curtis M : its below major support
02:18 pm Curtis M : heyre holding it up
02:20 pm Curtis M : whit earrow is what it should do like last time and the last 100000000 times flush
02:21 pm John M : crazy when you look at it
02:22 pm Mathew Waterfall : So weird. It would be almost impossible to actually game the oil market. There’s probably 10 people/groups world wide with enough juice to do that in this space
02:22 pm Mathew Waterfall : Very strange
02:22 pm Curtis M : thats why i am freaking out lol
02:22 pm Curtis M : i play oil cause its so liquid
02:23 pm Curtis M : aliens have landed
02:24 pm Mathew Waterfall : I haven’t had time to work it out but Im wondering if there’s a link between BOJ and them trying to prop up oil. Would be news to me but Trump is slamming their JPY ramps so maybe they are looking elsewhere?
02:24 pm Mathew Waterfall : That’s full on tin foil hat btw lol
02:24 pm Curtis M : lol
02:25 pm Mathew Waterfall : random thoughts from mathew for ya right there
02:25 pm Curtis M : I’ll take random
02:29 pm Curtis M : kinda like getting old spice for Christmas
02:29 pm Mathew Waterfall : I guess I should have expected this quiet close
02:30 pm Mathew Waterfall : funny. /CL volume is up slightly today vs other days this year
02:31 pm Mathew Waterfall : I assumed it would be way down with lack of action
02:31 pm Mathew Waterfall : Anyone out there use Sierra by chance and have deep level 2 figures?
02:31 pm David Z : sierra?
02:32 pm Mathew Waterfall : Sierra is a platform that a lot of oil/gas traders use
02:32 pm Curtis M : OILK I think does
02:32 pm Curtis M : Out DWT
02:33 pm Curtis M : cant wait around gotta go kill something
02:33 pm Mathew Waterfall : Im curious if there’s a huge bid down there propping things up. You say no algos so they may be placing and pulling but seeing a large bid at like 51.5 would make sense
02:33 pm Curtis M : him or shafique or lui when theyre in the room or whatever theyll be the one
02:34 pm Curtis M : gary too he might
02:34 pm Curtis M : stupid stupid stupid ugh
02:34 pm Curtis M : lets kill one b4 end of day here lol
02:35 pm Mathew Waterfall : $ENPH on watch for VWAP test
02:36 pm Mathew Waterfall : That’s about the only small cap runner I’ve been eyeing
02:36 pm Curtis M : $OCRX $AEHR but both meh
02:37 pm Mathew Waterfall : Yea tough flow to read for me so I’ve been staying away from those plays this week
02:39 pm Mathew Waterfall : Via Twitter: $SPX on track to post its 7th daily move <0.1% in the last 10 days. First time that’s happened since Jan. 1995 (and 3rd time in history)
02:39 pm Eric L : what nuts
02:40 pm Curtis M : maybe im not going loony tunes
02:41 pm Mathew Waterfall : Yea that’s pretty crazy. Also crazy long streak for days without a 1% or more move
02:43 pm Curtis M : market has left the building
02:51 pm Eric L : Mathew what do you think of these low float Chinas these guys are starting to run?
02:52 pm Eric L : Oh and Curt btw thanks for getting me in and outta that oil without a dent even though it didn’t fly – Ive done mega with you that have so just wanted to say before I go.
02:52 pm Curtis M : hey np I think Mat sleeping on his keyboard
02:53 pm Mathew Waterfall : haha Im about to get more coffee just to stay awake.
02:53 pm Curtis M : repost for the few that just came back in…. Via Twitter: $SPX on track to post its 7th daily move <0.1% in the last 10 days. First time that’s happened since Jan. 1995 (and 3rd time in history)
02:53 pm Curtis M : thanks to Mat
02:53 pm Mathew Waterfall : I’m not a fan of the low float plays they don’t fit my trading style so I don’t play them often. I’m not the guy on that
02:54 pm Curtis M : y athyre tough
02:54 pm Mathew Waterfall : You make them look easy but they never seen so simple when I try lol so I just leave them be more often then not
02:54 pm Curtis M : if you get a good squeeze and and and you ship in small then small then small tight t can be done – but 1 in 10 I get good – half i get razor cuts
02:55 pm Curtis M : the secret for me is the squeeze but even those last two weeks ave been blah
02:55 pm Lenny E : makes a lot of sense there
02:56 pm Lenny E : basically my style
02:56 pm Mathew Waterfall : It seems like the plays of december and jan would keep running but this week and last they dry up super quick
02:56 pm Eric L : Learning
02:57 pm Curtis M : they have to run and you have to cut quick when they dont thats the only way and they trade n the .25 cent and you need momo momo momo or you can play pull backs but same thing everything dried up recently
02:57 pm Eric L : thanks guys
02:57 pm Eric L : calling it a day see you tomorrow
02:57 pm Curtis M : peace
02:57 pm Mathew Waterfall : have a good night
02:58 pm Curtis M : The play to catch was the turn on Gold – thats the play last 6 weeks
03:01 pm Mathew Waterfall : Only thing that’s moving. Not even your typical rotation really. Well metals and some tech I suppose
03:07 pm Curtis M : Deck
03:07 pm Curtis M : sorry that was late lol
03:08 pm Lenny E : seen it anyway
03:08 pm OILK K : me also
03:08 pm OILK K : Mathew – no I don’t have t but will soon
03:09 pm Mathew Waterfall : I was just curious about todays flow is all K
03:10 pm OILK K : 10 4
03:14 pm Nicholas Winton : $PLG boom
03:15 pm darnel t : ya a few of us killing that one
03:17 pm Mathew Waterfall : $PLG has just been griding. $UAA also seeing some action here which is nice
03:18 pm Curtis M : Nice to see you got movement
03:18 pm Curtis M : I was gonna re enter it but ya
03:18 pm Mathew Waterfall : Let’s hope it keeps going here
03:19 pm Mathew Waterfall : Still a decent low to play against at 20.40 but it needs to get into the 22’s to solidify
03:22 pm Curtis M : thinktankcharts
03:22 pm Curtis M : he just posted the wierdness
03:23 pm Curtis M : i think most are afraid to say the obvious
03:23 pm Curtis M : were obvoiusly being played imo
03:23 pm Mathew Waterfall : Yepp. Problem is the casino is a deck of cards as well with yellen and kuroda and the helm. We all know how this ends, we just don’t know when
03:24 pm Curtis M : everybody piling in to Deck cause everybody bored and pent up
03:24 pm Mathew Waterfall : Started with what, someone disclosing their 6% stake or something?
03:25 pm Curtis M : yup
03:25 pm Curtis M : its gonna be a good short
03:25 pm Mathew Waterfall : Think if this missle gets pointed down. The piling on plus IV expansion and VIX blowing up. What dreams are made of
03:25 pm Curtis M : when market corrects it will be 32 at best
03:25 pm Mathew Waterfall : I mean the market as a whole not $DECK though it’s included
03:26 pm Curtis M : ok my theory….
03:26 pm Curtis M : no more QE right? cause they can’t it wouldn’t fly in US I don’t think
03:26 pm Curtis M : so they have been through proxies buying up equities and ol etc for a long time
03:27 pm Curtis M : proxies controlled lke a stock promotor does same idea
03:27 pm Curtis M : its not deep but its my theory
03:27 pm Curtis M : lol thats it thats the whole theory
03:27 pm Lenny E : that was deep
03:27 pm Mathew Waterfall : I agree. I was expecting more lol. I also think that there is no way that they can raise rates here as aggresively as they want
03:27 pm Lenny E : Going to scalp Deck if it gets over 50
03:28 pm Mathew Waterfall : So I think they will have to tighten by unloading corp bonds that they have stockpiled
03:28 pm Curtis M : dont do it lenny
03:28 pm Mathew Waterfall : No more QE +bond selling+1-2 rate hikes per year on an economy made of china
03:28 pm Curtis M : sounds rght
03:29 pm Mathew Waterfall : Kaboom. I don’t think we make it that long. There has beena large shift in the last 12 months to the market IMO and in the last couple weeks it has gotten even worse. I’ll be sitting on my hands until things clear up
03:32 pm Mathew Waterfall : Late day bear flow into $AAPL of note. Only thing really jumping out at me today
03:33 pm Curtis M : hmmm
03:33 pm OILQ K : You guys are right.
03:34 pm Curtis M : So we wait and be smart till then. Hopefully tomorrow has some flow.
03:37 pm Mathew Waterfall : $TRQ late day flow finally. $NAK also liking this copper strike news as pointed out by Nich
03:37 pm Curtis M : Man I missed Nichs note on that
03:38 pm Curtis M : Meeting with Sartaj after about room transcrpts btw – so that everyone can access them without us posting
03:38 pm Nicholas Winton : $TGB is great for copper
03:38 pm Nicholas Winton : low cost, ramping production
03:38 pm Mathew Waterfall : Hasn’t been a ton of movement. $NAk was 2.9ish now 3.04
03:38 pm Dave A : That would be great
03:39 pm Nicholas Winton : $TGB also produces 250k oz silver and opened a moly mine
03:39 pm Nicholas Winton : which is great as inflation hits
03:39 pm Curtis M : hey Nich thanks lol
03:39 pm Nicholas Winton : no prob!
03:39 pm Mathew Waterfall : interesting. I’ll dig in to that after the bell thanks!
03:39 pm Shafique M : Good info from u guys all the time
03:41 pm Lenny E : here comes 50
03:41 pm Don O : omg
03:41 pm Nicholas Winton : $TGB was a pick at 55c in my newsletter just a couple of months ago- chart looksready to erupt again soon
03:41 pm Don O : it wont go over 50 lenny
03:41 pm Curtis M : lol
03:41 pm Curtis M : $TGB it is on watch
03:41 pm Curtis M : Thanks Hedge
03:41 pm Nicholas Winton : copper is the tell for the whole mkt
03:42 pm Nicholas Winton : as long as it holds strong, SPY will hold or move up
03:42 pm Nicholas Winton : speculation and small caps are where the huge $ will be made
03:42 pm Nicholas Winton : over the next month imho
03:42 pm Curtis M : holy sh*t lenny might get 50
03:43 pm Lenny E : small bios moving too but too late in day
03:43 pm Lenny E : covering likely
03:44 pm Lenny E : $TGB I like
03:44 pm Nicholas Winton : great fundies, chart, mgmnt and also- some insider buying
03:44 pm Nicholas Winton : in the last month or two
03:45 pm Nicholas Winton : $TGB traded at 50c in 2008 after copper crashed in 2008
03:45 pm Nicholas Winton : and within 2 years was back as high as $7
03:45 pm Nicholas Winton : as copper surged back up
03:45 pm Mathew Waterfall : copper(blue line) vs $SPX weekly bars http://tos.mx/TXpFLy
03:45 pm Mathew Waterfall : $TGB looks really good here. I think copper can rally without the greater market
03:46 pm Nicholas Winton : $TGB also has a huge undeveloped gold project called Prosperity
03:46 pm Nicholas Winton : much to like in $TGB followed for many years
03:46 pm Mathew Waterfall : Yepp that’s a logn term buy and hold
03:46 pm Nicholas Winton : $TGBeast
03:47 pm Mathew Waterfall : lol
03:48 pm Mathew Waterfall : @fxmacro Follow MoreU.S. ENERGY DEPARTMENT SAYS WILL SELL 10 MLN BARRELS OF OIL FROM STRATEGIC PETROLEUM RESERVE IN LATE FEBRUARY AS MANDATED BY 2016 LAW
03:49 pm Mathew Waterfall : Well that thickens the plot a bit here
03:49 pm Curtis M : hmmm
03:50 pm Mathew Waterfall : So many possibilities to what could be going on, none of which I am considering are inocent lol
03:51 pm Curtis M : I dont thnk Trump is a mistake the more I thnk about it
03:52 pm OILK K : $CLF earnings tomorrow and its got some momentum
03:53 pm Curtis M : I’m all conspiracy now.
03:53 pm Mathew Waterfall : After what went on with $X, $CLF makes me nervous
03:53 pm Mathew Waterfall : lol conspiracies are fun to think about until they take you down the rabbit hole
03:54 pm Curtis M : some traders I know on Twitter I losing their sh*t on each other….. I think “this” is getting to everyone
03:55 pm Curtis M : optionsavvy on twitter great guy losing it and others
03:55 pm Mathew Waterfall : Part of being in this game is adapting. I know a couple others doing the same thing
03:56 pm Curtis M : wisdom
03:57 pm Curtis M : at 1254 sh I gotta call Gold gone and I gotta admit I missed the whole move and then even worse i am a chaser lol
03:58 pm Mathew Waterfall : I hope it gets there so we can all make money on the blast off volume 2
03:58 pm Nicholas Winton : gold’s next leg up will power the juniors like THM
03:59 pm Nicholas Winton : that havent moved
03:59 pm Nicholas Winton : and the venture stocks
03:59 pm Curtis M : thats my hope
04:00 pm Mathew Waterfall : Super cheap premiums on a lot of those names on the options side right now. MEtals need to keep climbing and they will catch fire
04:00 pm Mathew Waterfall : Have a good ngiht all. See ya bright and early
04:00 pm Curtis M : cya
04:00 pm Lenny E : bye
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